Real operators. Real agents. Real results.
For operators, builders, and leaders at the intersection of human intelligence and AI execution. Real conversations about the systems, strategies, and messy realities of putting AI agents to work.
Steve and Jackie open up their actual AI operating systems — file structures, daily routines, skills, and the compounding improvements that let them ship production work multiple times a day.
Every conversation, every lesson, every behind-the-scenes look at humans and agents working together.
The Ralph Wiggum Loop, 1,053 workflows built overnight, and why the future belongs to systems engineers — not construction workers.
Agents working the night shift, automated testing in seconds, and why knowing what to ask for matters more than knowing how to code.
Why the next era isn't agents running everything — it's humans and agents learning how to work together with shared context.
Behind the scenes: how we're using AI inside the business, what changed, and why context is now the bottleneck.
Builder, operator, and the mind behind the context engineering methodology that took AI performance from 4% to 70.9%. Steve brings a factory-floor mindset to knowledge work, a thousand business books' worth of frameworks, and a relentless focus on making AI produce real, measurable value.
He's been a lawyer (for one week), a marketing agency operator, and now the architect of a new way to work — one where humans and agents operate as true partners, not just tools and users.
Humans + Agents is a weekly podcast about building an AI-powered business without losing the humans in the process. Every episode is a behind-the-scenes look at what we actually built, what broke, what changed, and what we learned along the way.
This isn't about AI hype or theoretical frameworks. It's about the real, messy, sometimes hilarious work of getting humans and AI agents to collaborate effectively — from context engineering and quality control to overnight agent runs and the psychological shifts that come with moving at machine speed.
Real operators. Real agents. Real results.
Product management executive, software development leader, and operations strategist with over 20 years in healthcare IT, telehealth, and product development. Jackie has held engineering and leadership roles at Honeywell, Xerox, the Medical College of Wisconsin, and Cornell University's eCornell — and co-founded MindLight, a caregiving technology startup that raised $2.2M in seed funding.
She's a certified executive coach, a published author, and a three-time patent holder who bridges the gap between technical execution and business reality. At Humans + Agents, Jackie builds agent systems overnight, runs automated testing suites by morning, and proves that generalists with deep curiosity and a bias for action are the ones who win in the AI era.